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Some cycle friendly hotels in Paris

13 July 2015 - 12:31pm
I recently contacted a bunch of hotels in Paris to see if they would provide a place to store bikes for a night. These are the ones that said yes, just in case useful to anyone else:
www.royalmagda.com
www.grand-hotel-dore.com
www.elysees-union.com
www.lesjardinsdumarais.com
groups@pardl.crowneplaza.com
Citadines Les Halles Paris
hotel-central-bastille.com/
www.montclair-hostel.com
www.hotelroyalcardinal.com

Cycle camping tour to Burgundy or Jura?

13 July 2015 - 12:23pm
We are setting off to France in a couple of weeks on a cycle camping trip - other than buying train tickets to Dijon we've planned nothing. Have been looking at cycle routes around Burgundy but also tempted by Jura. The scenery there looks wonderful but maybe too hilly for us. Any advice on good routes? We like quiet, lovely scenery, camping opportunities, not necessarily in campsites, not too hard as our bikes end up very heavy and we have an 11 year old with us (mind you she's normally up the hills first...) We have 18 days
any recommendations much appreciated

Re: car hire v train prices

13 July 2015 - 11:19am
mjr wrote:If it's booked, it's booked and I'd kick up a stink.

So would I. But, the small print still gives the 'guard' the final say. I was on a train toward Manchester a couple of years ago with a connection to Hull and the ferry. The train was busy and the bike space full with cases. The guard tried to tell me there wasn't space and I should get off the next stop even though I'd booked and attached the ticket to the bike. After 10 minutes of me re-arranging the cases he went away shaking his head. I checked afterwards and he was technically correct.

Re: car hire v train prices

13 July 2015 - 11:06am
PH wrote:I use the train at least once a week and have done for more than a year, always booked on line in advance (And saved a fortune, big savings even on local journeys) not yet had or heard of a problem.
I've been using the train less often that that but using the click+collect tickets since they first became available. The only problem I recall is the occasional failure to encode the ticket for the barriers correctly, so I had to ask the barrier operator to let me through each time, which they all did.

tyreon wrote:Most guards are fine, but I accept they have to follow rules and regs or get disciplined. I try to defer to authority but sometimes fail. As Mr Awkard meeting Mr Rules and Reg guard and being denied access to a train, when is a bike not a bike? I mean if i dissembled a bike its 2 wheels and a frame, no? I dont fancy a night sitting out at St Pancras station.
If it's booked, it's booked and I'd kick up a stink. It's the trains where you can't book and it's basically "first two bikes OK and the rest at discretion" where Mr Awkward could cause problems, but it's never happened to me, although I've not tried to take my bike anywhere that's really really busy.

To turn a bike into luggage in theory you need to get it under 90cm x 70cm x 30cm according to http://www.atob.org.uk/bike-rail/uk-bik ... vel-guide/ which few bike bags seem to do (shortest I've seen is 115cm) but in practice there have been a few stories of people putting hastily-bought wrapping paper around a fully-built bike and getting let through...
For the record, I feel very paranoid hiring any car these days. Invisible costs, then full fuel tanks. I would also have to video the whole car to sight any damage. L8st me trust in this world, sorry to say
I'm with you there. I've only been stung for debatably-accurate charges but I've overheard some blazing arguments whlie returning hire cars - I have also been lucky by refusing an upgrade at the counter, then getting a free upgrade in the collection car park because they'd sold out of the class we'd hired.

Re: Summer Tour to the Netherlands

13 July 2015 - 12:37am
I went last year....

I would agree wholeheartedly about the http://www.natuurkampeerterreinen.nl/. They are superb and made our trip. I would base any trip around nature campings but would also like to try the pole camping - these guys explain it here: http://travellingtwo.com/5233

I Think you could get a camping card on arrival at your first site... we went into Den Haag and bought a card at the Beversport shop. The great thing about the NL is that, even with a family, you can aim for any city centre and enjoy riding in and out again. It's so easy.

We parked up in the ferry car park last year and came back to find they weren't charging and so it was free.... Would be too good to be true I guess but its worth checking if this is still the case.

Re: Summer Tour to the Netherlands

13 July 2015 - 12:00am
MartinBrice wrote:http://www.natuurkampeerterreinen.nl/

or

https://www.facebook.com/Natuurkampeert ... 53/?type=1

are cheap, clean, quiet, and once you've been to one you won't camp elsewhere. you need to join before you go. a decent map is essential simply for the planning, get it before you go.
leave the panniers on the bike, i always have done.
from the ferry go east 2k or 3k on the road until you hit the sea and can see the hoek van holland sign, then look for a sign pointing northwards, that takes cyclists northward. If you want to start in the north, get a train rotterdam, change at amsterdam and go on a train to the north, then head south on the bike.
the prevailing wind is from the south west.
it's a wonderful place, lovely people, great cycling and camping.

Guess you really mean go west to the sea unless i've got my map upside down!

Re: Who's got the worst bike, and how far have you ridden it

12 July 2015 - 11:27pm
My son rode my old Diamondback mountain bike of 88/89 vintage across the USA from west to east and the following year, north to south down the Pacific coast about 6500 miles all told. It's still going strong.
I rode a 16" wheeled folding bike 140 miles across England.

Re: GPS location sender on Android

12 July 2015 - 10:42pm
I use the app real time gps tracker, free on android. Only takes a few seconds to get your location, then updates your unique url at http://www.greenalp.com/RealTimeTracker/

Works well for me.

Re: GPS location sender on Android

12 July 2015 - 10:37pm
chris_suffolk wrote:Looks good, but in the hour I had it installed, only sending location every hour, battery drained by 13% - and battery monitor said it was mainly down to ViewRanger. Way too much, so uninstalled
I would think it will only send beacons when your position changes. Things to check are, what coverage you have and what type of data connection, have you downloaded all mapping you may have been using (as it will work with online mapping, downloading mapping as needed). I'd also check your GPS (in ViewRanger - those that tell ViewRanger how to handle the GPS) settings as those can affect the power consumption in a big way. For example, leaving the GPS on continuously when you only want to send a single beacon every hour is bund to consume a lot of battery !!

When you use your phone to e.g. record a track, what sort of battery consumption do you get ?

Reason I'm suspecting some other cause is because ViewRanger is a very mainstream app (used by vast numbers of people) and I can't believe that sending a single beacon is taking 13% of you battery (even for an old of not so powerful phone).

If there are no other explanations of the power consumption, then I'd contact their support - which in my experience (of several issues raised) is pretty responsive and helpful.

When I used to use ViewRanger I used to get a 3hr ride track recording (no BuddyBeacon) taking less than 25% charge - so ViewRanger is actually quite an efficient app in terms of it's power consumption - although that's on an iPhone with a healthy battery. Similarly, as mountain rescue use it (also tracking "Buddies" as well as sending their position) I would suspect it would quickly be discarded if it consumed battery power excessively (as they'd all suddenly be lost from view from everybody else if they didn't find their target quickly).

Ian

Re: Santander to Biarritz

12 July 2015 - 10:19pm
Thanks for your reply. Sorry maybe I wasn't clear enough - I'm looking for the best advice for cycling the north coast to avoid the busy roads, and recommended camping stops. We've got 4 days to do from Santander - Biarritz. Are their any GPX sets available etc?

The best account of the route I've found so far is - https://www.crazyguyonabike.com/doc/?o= ... =7411&v=B0

Re: GPS location sender on Android

12 July 2015 - 10:16pm
it seems quite configurable, so I think it might be ok. You can control how it uses the battery, gps, etc

Does anyone know how to get it to work with existing offline (free) osm maps rather than their chargeable ones?

Re: Santander to Biarritz

12 July 2015 - 10:01pm
maybe a bus from santander to pamplona
http://bit.ly/1MoHwzM

€21 takes four hours. 10 for the bike, IIRC. wrap the bike in clingfilm, it's easy.

it's high up, you can go over the pyrenees on the north road or do in to st jean in france. it'll avoid the busy roads on the north spanish coast, which carry all the trade between spain and northern europe.

Re: Summer Tour to the Netherlands

12 July 2015 - 9:52pm
http://www.natuurkampeerterreinen.nl/

or

https://www.facebook.com/Natuurkampeert ... 53/?type=1

are cheap, clean, quiet, and once you've been to one you won't camp elsewhere. you need to join before you go. a decent map is essential simply for the planning, get it before you go.
leave the panniers on the bike, i always have done.
from the ferry go east 2k or 3k on the road until you hit the sea and can see the hoek van holland sign, then look for a sign pointing northwards, that takes cyclists northward. If you want to start in the north, get a train rotterdam, change at amsterdam and go on a train to the north, then head south on the bike.
the prevailing wind is from the south west.
it's a wonderful place, lovely people, great cycling and camping.

Re: GPS location sender on Android

12 July 2015 - 9:11pm
Looks good, but in the hour I had it installed, only sending location every hour, battery drained by 13% - and battery monitor said it was mainly down to ViewRanger. Way too much, so uninstalled

Re: Summer Tour to the Netherlands

12 July 2015 - 8:50pm
We left most of our panniers on the bike on the Harwich-Hoek ferry, as did quite a few other people, and no one seemed to mind and nothing happened.

You have to go past a security guard and barrier to get into the car park next to Harwich International Station, since he's also controlling access to the secure area. Whether he cares if you kip in your car, I don't know. The car park has about an £8 daily charge. I'm not sure why you'd want to overnight there rather than where you are going to park up for the rest of your trip.

We were there during a (Dutch) holiday weekend when some campsites had signs up saying full, but by asking nicely we found they still had room for some cyclists with small tents. Along the coast campsites are larger and less frequent than well inland. We found the smaller campsites were not shown on the ANWB 1:100 000 cycling map, though someone else showed me another brand of 1:100 000 cycling map that showed more campsites. A 1:50 000 cycling map I have shows about 5 campsites in the close vicinity of Hoek, and another on the edge of Monster, though we didn't get close enough to have a look at any of them. Some of them are very close together so it isn't too hard to go and scout them out, but you will need that 1:50 000 map, or equivalent, as we found it all a bit confusing with the maze of cycle paths in the dunes near Hoek. You might want to buy at least your first cycling map before arriving, as Hoek is a rather small town with only rather basic stuff on sale.

Re: GPS location sender on Android

12 July 2015 - 8:16pm
Viewranger is perfect. Thanks

Re: car hire v train prices

12 July 2015 - 7:37pm
I think ive followed the discussion and appreciate the help

Am probably talking nonsense but from recall recall some trains accepting bikes are still at the discretion of the guard, todays train manager.

Most guards are fine, but I accept they have to follow rules and regs or get disciplined. I try to defer to authority but sometimes fail. As Mr Awkard meeting Mr Rules and Reg guard and being denied access to a train, when is a bike not a bike? I mean if i dissembled a bike its 2 wheels and a frame, no? I dont fancy a night sitting out at St Pancras station.

For the record, I feel very paranoid hiring any car these days. Invisible costs, then full fuel tanks. I would also have to video the whole car to sight any damage. L8st me trust in this world, sorry to say

Re: car hire v train prices

12 July 2015 - 7:02pm
TonyR wrote:
If that's too complicated you can take your ticket booking reference number to a ticket office and they'll issue it for you.

I didn't know that.

Re: Way of the Roses..an accident waiting to happen?

12 July 2015 - 6:54pm
It's a classic fast hill requiring caution. When I went down with my family (wife on back of tandem, kids on Islabike Luaths, all with panniers) I bellowed instructions to keep speed low and make sure everything was under control before each bend. The kids looked nervous, but that's how I wanted it. We all arrived at the bottom safely. Hills like this are part of the Pennine experience, and I think it would be unreasonable to blame the route for accidents. Any adult cyclist undertaking a ride should take responsibility for the condition of their own brakes and their competence to use them. I was glad that the route took us down this hill rather than up it!

Re: Way of the Roses..an accident waiting to happen?

12 July 2015 - 6:34pm
There has now been another fatality on this descent... http://road.cc/content/news/157369-poli ... ent-369468

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