Feed aggregator

Re: Pedestrian pushes cyclist off bike and into traffic

CTC Forum - On the road - 1 hour 20 min ago
irc wrote:If I'm riding in a straight line along a road and an overtaking car hits me I'm completely blameless but the accident is still avoidable if I look in my mirror, see it coming and swerve to my nearside.

Easy enough to say in hindsight, however who's to say what the consequence of your sudden swerve is.

Re: Bike provision on Beeston tram route and a question

CTC Forum - On the road - 1 hour 32 min ago
I wonder what else could they have done in the space available other than make no cycle lanes.

Nottingham once had a tram network then they replaced it with trolley buses then replaced them with ordinary buses now they've built a tram system again but nowhere near as extensive as the original one. When will they make their minds up? For a quiet and pollution free city transport system the trolley bus seems a better as all that's needed are the overhead power lines.

Re: Pre-ride (or pre-drive) checks.

CTC Forum - On the road - 2 hours 3 min ago
I check tyres and brakes frequently: once per day if commuting or before a ride if I haven't used the bike in at least a day. I also check the kids' bikes, and encourage them to. Similarly, if the bike has been parked someplace vulnerable, I at least check it visually.

I do more thorough checks periodically, too. How often & when depends on the bike. My commuter gets a more thorough check approximately once every 5 or 6 days of commuting, and service as needed. My mountain bike, on the other hand, hasn't been used much since early spring (it was used with studded tyres in the winter), but I'm taking it up to Rallarvegen in a couple of weeks, so it will get a service this weekend, in case I need to get any bits or change anything (I suspect I need a new chain).

Re: Pedestrian pushes cyclist off bike and into traffic

CTC Forum - On the road - 2 hours 17 min ago
irc wrote:Psamathe wrote:Bottom line (from my opinion) is that she did not hit him, yet he felt he felt it acceptable that he hit her. He was wrong.

If we do want to question what she might have done and assume she did e.g. give him the finger, why did he have to run after her some distance to assault her ? But for me that is not a big issue as whatever the answer, I can see no justification for his attack.

Ian

Everyone agrees the attack was unjustified. What we are talking about is whether or not any reasonable alternative actions could have avoided the attack.

Use of her brakes or steering for example. Or having had a near miss and verbal exchange, not to mention an alleged finger wagging should she have checked over her shoulder as she cycled away?

If I'm riding in a straight line along a road and an overtaking car hits me I'm completely blameless but the accident is still avoidable if I look in my mirror, see it coming and swerve to my nearside. It isn't my fault if someone punches me in the face but it''s still reasonable to suggest that maybe I could have avoided the punch by reading verbal and non verbal clues and taking avoiding action.

On the one hand I agree that if she'd done a shoulder check and saw him coming after her she could've escaped.
OTOH should people in a so called civilised society need to keep looking over their shoulder to see if anyone's about to assault them over such trivia?
The incident says more about UK society than we're prepared to consider IMHO.

Re: Pedestrian pushes cyclist off bike and into traffic

CTC Forum - On the road - 2 hours 21 min ago
irc wrote:Everyone agrees the attack was unjustified. What we are talking about is whether or not any reasonable alternative actions could have avoided the attack.
Yes. He could have not pushed her.

Re: Pre-ride (or pre-drive) checks.

CTC Forum - On the road - 2 hours 22 min ago
Ok, that's funny....

I do look at the tyres quite often, but with a car on a slope they always look a bit flat to me...

Re: Pedestrian pushes cyclist off bike and into traffic

CTC Forum - On the road - 2 hours 42 min ago
kwackers wrote:reohn2 wrote:Vorpal's post above about sums it up,the cyclist was no threat IMO the aggressor is the pedestrian,end of.
I don't deny he was the aggressor but when I watch the video I see the usual might is right approach except this time by a cyclist. (And an approach I witness with more and more frequency as time goes by and cyclist numbers increase.)

Vorpals post imo is wrong on a number of points.
Firstly the 'red man' is a 'red herring'. Pedestrians are under no obligation to wait for the red man, might be advisable and in this case he most certainly should have waited - but he didn't.

So he was playing chicken?
And when the lady didn't stop he got angry,is that possibly the answer to the "please don't trying and knock me off" plea from the cyclist?
"Please dont try to knock me off" can only be one of two things; she thought a collision was possible, in which case why not stop? (As Vorpal pointed out she wasn't going very fast and a quick 'frame by frame' shows she made no attempt to slow down at all.)
Of course perhaps she actually thought for some reason he might knock her off in which case there's even more reason to stop and avoid it! You can see the pedestrian on the video for a fair while, there's absolutely no reason to assume she can see something the camera can't - they both have the same viewpoint after all and if he'd shouted a warning he'd have been facing her and we'd have heard it.
IMO we'd be assuming a lot from the time he's in the picture,however the cyclist has first hand/real life time to assess the situation and it seems she thought there was some threat to her person otherwise why the plea not to be knocked off?
He said she gave him the finger - well something tipped him over the edge so I think it's a fair bet she did. The shaking of her head is simply icing on the cake.
To my mind you're assuming a lot,and he might already have been over the edge,maybe a chap who lives on the edge,maybe a complete nutter,there's a lot of them about.

So the scenerio is pretty straightforward.
A ped ill advisedly starts to cross, a bicycle is heading towards him. He continues (no obvious indication he's seen the cyclist) the cyclist realises he's not for stopping and talking to herself comments on the impending 'crash', she passes him closely and gives him the finger whilst shaking her head.
From his pov, he's crossing the road when a cyclist passes v.close and a combination of shock and anger particularly when he sees the cyclist give him the finger causes him to lose it.
More assumptions IMHO.

It's a bit like the woman that knocked me off, could she have braked? Of course, she didn't though because she believed she had right of way and thinking you have "right of way" somehow makes braking the last thing a person would want to do.
But that's not what IMO happened in this instance,and sheer aggression and horrible nastiness of the pedestrian's nature is played out in graphic detail a few seconds later.

Re: Bike provision on Beeston tram route and a question

CTC Forum - On the road - 3 hours 13 min ago
A case of bike provision not fit for purpose - unless the purpose is to legislate bikes off the road. I know one or two people who have come a ccropper on roads with tram tracks - they are not the cyclists best friend.

Re: Bike provision on Beeston tram route and a question

CTC Forum - On the road - 4 hours 8 min ago
Excellent post. How has this come to be? Totally inept.

When I asked about similar problems in the centre of the city I was told just to cycle in the middle of the tram lines. My speed will not be your speed: uphill, 8mph. Obviously I don't want to hold up the tram,but what else can you do? I hope the authorities have told the tram drivers about this.

Pathetic

Re: Home made electrolyte solution

CTC Forum - On the road - 4 hours 14 min ago
Quinine does offer relief for cramp but I think that using quinine is more masking the problem rather than sorting the actual cause of cramp. It is very rare that I get cramp - but over the last month or two it's started when riding. I do think that it's related to the fact that I overheat when cycling and am losing too much salt.

Re: Home made electrolyte solution

CTC Forum - On the road - 4 hours 51 min ago
Fruit juice mixed with Indian Tonic Water (must have quinine in it).

Re: Bike provision on Beeston tram route and a question

CTC Forum - On the road - 5 hours 35 min ago
I agree, I have cycled down that road many times and the best way I have found is to cycle between the tracks. You can then cycle down the road ok but you have to keep in mind that swerving to avoid anything is not an option.
If you cycle to the left of them then you can't get through the stops and if you cycle to the right of them cars will try to under-take you.

btw - there has been a lot of discussion as you can imagine on how to tackle tram tracks, I think there is a lot of confusion because the experiences of people who tend to cycle at around 5mph will be very different to someone who tends to cycle at higher speeds. At low speed you can often get away with crossing at narrow angles etc. but once you are cycling at any kind of speed I would suggest you treat them exactly as you would treat ice (especially when wet). It is not just the gap which is the danger, do not let your tyre anywhere near the metal.

I have yet to find a way to safely tackle either end of this road where you have to cross the tracks. Any attempt to try and cross them at near right angles results in my experience with the car behind me getting confused/impatient and trying to overtake resulting in a near miss. There is the facility to go up on to the pavement but not very practical in my opinion.

Re: Home made electrolyte solution

CTC Forum - On the road - 6 hours 31 min ago
^^

Pineapple may work - would that make it taste a bit like a Pina Colada? I tried mine with just Coconut milk, some water and a little salt and had that whilst cycling into work tonight. I have never eaten cardboard before but I imagine that if I got some card, added some water and blended it up it would probably taste better. Still got a little bit of cramp on my journey too!

May just cycle over to PlanetX in Rotherham next week and pick up some more of their High5 tablets. I could collect all the bottles for my daughter's football team.

Re: Pedestrian pushes cyclist off bike and into traffic

CTC Forum - On the road - 9 hours 42 min ago
Psamathe wrote:Bottom line (from my opinion) is that she did not hit him, yet he felt he felt it acceptable that he hit her. He was wrong.

If we do want to question what she might have done and assume she did e.g. give him the finger, why did he have to run after her some distance to assault her ? But for me that is not a big issue as whatever the answer, I can see no justification for his attack.

Ian

Everyone agrees the attack was unjustified. What we are talking about is whether or not any reasonable alternative actions could have avoided the attack.

Use of her brakes or steering for example. Or having had a near miss and verbal exchange, not to mention an alleged finger wagging should she have checked over her shoulder as she cycled away?

If I'm riding in a straight line along a road and an overtaking car hits me I'm completely blameless but the accident is still avoidable if I look in my mirror, see it coming and swerve to my nearside. It isn't my fault if someone punches me in the face but it''s still reasonable to suggest that maybe I could have avoided the punch by reading verbal and non verbal clues and taking avoiding action.

Re: Shoreham air crash

CTC Forum - On the road - 27 August 2015 - 11:56pm
squeaker wrote:661-Pete wrote:... (it's not really a cycling route).
Er, the A27 from the traffic lights where the plane crashed has a narrow shared use path going west into Lancing; the airport perimeter road is a quiet route to the coast; and the Coombes Road going north is a very popular cycling route to get north of the Downs from the coastal plain (far more bikes than cars use it on most weekends).
I had thought about cycling down to Lancing Sailing Club that morning, having seen the forecast for Sunday (when I would be at the club - a good place to watch the aerobatics, as well as sail, but not in low cloud / heavy rain) but our grass needed mowing...
Well, certainly this is not the time to argue, you have a point (though to me a narrow shared-use path doesn't constitute a cycling route ). Much of the A27 is fast D/C and I wouldn't contemplate cycling on those sections myself nor advising others to, partly because there are perfectly good parallel routes (the A259 and the 'old' A27 through Brighton and Shoreham now re-numbered the A270), and partly because part of it (the Southwick Hill tunnel section) is banned to cyclists anyway.

Regarding aerobatics and air shows as a whole - well have the scales been tipped towards the line of reasoning that they are too dangerous to continue? Or does this amount to 'nanny-state'-ing in the extreme? Certainly the casualty rate is alarmingly high - usually only the pilots are involved, but here......

I remember now, witnessing a crash during aerobatics, when I was a small boy, although mercifully no-one was killed on that occasion. It happened over an area of common, popular with walkers, on a Sunday, and I was there with my parents, about a mile off. Plenty of other people were about and saw the crash, and by the time we reached the site, with the plane nose-down in a small copse, quite a crowd had assembled. The plane was a light single-engined two-seater, and the pilot and passenger escaped with bruises and a broken leg, remarkable since the plane was a total write-off. I remember my father took photographs. I may still have them somewhere.

Ever since then, I've had a touch of the jitters whenever watching aerobatics. Especially over populated areas. Is it just me?

Re: How much does luggage slow you down?

CTC Forum - On the road - 27 August 2015 - 10:47pm
Not a lot really. On my road bike unloaded I average about 15-17 mph. On my loaded tourer it's anywhere from 11-14 mph depending on terrain and particularly wind. With such a lot more drag the wind really makes a difference. But I'm usually enjoying the adventure of touring too much to worry about the extra weight

Re: camp site recommendations for Derbyshire

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 27 August 2015 - 10:46pm
Waterloo Arms at Biggin. Close to the Tissington Trail and to Hartington. Good basic site, and nice friendly pub.
Callow Top just outside Ashbourne. On the Tissington Trail, walking distance to Ashbourne. Maybe a bit rule-driven and elaborate, but does have on on-site pub which brews its own beer.
And I think there's a basic farm site at Wetton, close to the Manifold trail and Thor's cave. The pub (Royal Oak) is good, but not as good as when it was more basic and had its own campsite.

Re: New Route Planner

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 27 August 2015 - 10:45pm
Richard Fairhurst wrote:I've done a bunch of work today on the GPS downloads:

[list]
[*]TCX should now work properly on Garmins - I've tested it on BaseCamp and Training Center and it works fine, though I don't have a new Garmin unit to test with;
...

Oh, amazing. I'll have to try it out. In the past I've done the route finding on your site then (I can't remember if the reasons are from bad experience or just stupidity on my part) I've had to manually recreate the route in Garmin Connect, since I've never had success with GPX or TCX files. Fingers crossed that TCX works nicely.

Re: Insect attack on the move!

CTC Forum - On the road - 27 August 2015 - 10:42pm
I too find insects seem drawn in to the helmet vents, it must be due to air currents? I had an insect incident in Spain recently. It was extremely hot, and felt something hit me in the chest, then a split second later had a searing pain on my left side. Fearing a wasp or hornet had gone down my top I stopped sharply and removed my top, but could see no sign of my attacker. But I'd definitely been stung and it hurt like hell!

Re: Home made electrolyte solution

CTC Forum - On the road - 27 August 2015 - 10:27pm
The fat commuter wrote:Hmm, will have a look at putting some salt into some fruit juice. I usually eat a banana a day which is meant to contain magnesium and potassium. Coconut milk is also meant to have magnesium and potassium in it - can get that from ALDI.

Sounds like a fairly disgusting drink mind, water, coconut milk, orange juice and salt. Will maybe give it a go - can't wait.
Pineapple and coconut, maybe? Or mango?
Syndicate content

Archive

  • Patron: Her Majesty The Queen
  • President: Jon Snow
  • Chief Executive: Paul Tuohy
  • Cyclists' Touring Club (CTC): A company limited by guarantee, registered in England no.25185. Registered as a charity in England and Wales No 1147607 and in Scotland No SC042541

Copyright © CTC 2015

Terms and Conditions